Tuesday, July 7, 2009

Comic 606: Being Annoying

Cutting My Wrists
Oh god it's more fucking memes. Oh hey guys, remember Portal? Yeah I do, too, maybe because it's not 2013 and we haven't forgotten about it yet and I think I speak for the rest of humanity we I say I am fucking sick of hearing about it. Yes it's fun, yes it's quirky and funny, yes, you've mentioned it before. So shut up already. I don't care if you are mentioning them in order to say that it is annoying to mention them; it's annoying to mention them. The end.

Remember when xkcd people used to talk like real people? I wonder what happened to those days. "Where have you been?" "Playing Half-Life 2" "Didn't that come out in 2004?" That's a real natural response - what's next? "What are you listening to?" "The Beatles?" "Didn't they break up in 1970?" People do play old games, you know. Is that so crazy?

I guess this comic is an example of what I've called Randall Munroe's Illustrated Picto-Blog - a place to write about ideas he has without the pressure of being funny. Not that this is a particularly interesting idea - but it's an even worse joke.

It doesn't stand up to even an iota of thought: The dude knows he is 5 years behind the times - so in 2013 he should know that everyone else has played Portal years ago. By spouting off the jokes, he isn't facing a "downside" to his idea so much as a "downside to him being fucking annoying."

Did Portal really come out in 2008? Because I remember playing it in 2007. Let's see if wikipedia knows - "The game was released in a bundle package called The Orange Box for Microsoft Windows and Xbox 360 on October 9, 2007, and for the PlayStation 3 on December 11, 2007." Ah, ok, good. Randall: Get an editor, or try harder yourself.

In xkcd world, people look the same 5 years into the future as they do now.

104 comments:

  1. Released in late 2007, and the caption says "Early 2013"...I can excuse Randall for that.

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  2. I dunno - how hard is it to add 2007 to 5, and get 2012 as the correct result? I thought he liked math.

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  3. i have totally despised the latest xkcds but can't help but have a few GOOMH moments: the day after I explained Idiocracy to my boyfriend's parents he came out with that lame Idiojackass comic; the day after we discussed where his parents went to sample wedding cakes was that stupid extrapolating comic; the day after my boyfriend explained "The cake is a lie" to his parents Randy came out with dumb old 606.

    gasp

    what if my boyfriend's parents are randall munroe holy shit you guys what the hell and i am dating his offspring

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  4. Also maybe he needed until early 2013 to actually beat the game? Never having played it, I can't say whether the game is hard enough to take a full month to beat.

    captcha: idoomego

    hahahah

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  5. The game is hard enough to take, like, two or three hours to beat. It's very clever and entertaining, but NOT long.

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  6. Carl, Carl, Carl. xkcd people have never talked like real people.

    Anyway, a lot of people (myself included) didn't play Portal until early '08. Maybe stick-man was just busy with 5-years-too-late Bioshock?

    The other thing that bugged me: C'mon, "the cake is a lie" appeared ONCE in that game. Only through the power of Internet did it become a meme. It is hardly the thing that someone would fixate on after playing it through five years later.

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  7. Cuddlefish PrimeJuly 7, 2009 at 9:10 PM

    That's too scary for words, Amanda. Bad thoughts go away.

    Like I said in the other thread, what really bugs me about 606 is the implication that if the guy ran up to his friends and started yelling lines from whatever game is new and popular in 2013, people would find it clever and hilarious. Except that in real life, it would be just as annoying and douchey as randomly quoting games that came out five (or six) years ago.

    CAPTCHA: "conver," as in conversation, for which memes are not a valid substitute. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 4CHAN AND REAL LIFE, RANDY. PLEASE LEARN THIS ASAP.

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  8. This is really just another wet dream fantasy for Randy, just disguised ever so slightly. All he wants is a plan to spout memes endlessly long after they're passe. But in this subconscious melodrama, the awful truth cannot escape him! But never fear, Randy's cannot "import understanding of human psyche", not even sudo will work! Let the ancient memes flow freely, like a NYT article on 4chan!

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  9. Potentially interesting setup, failure to make a good joke out of it.

    Again.



    Captcha: feckers (tee hee)

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  10. Ugh! The new one is a Unix joke. I'd make fun of it, but I have no idea what's going on.

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  11. how come you can see the newest one, i can't

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  12. It MIGHT be ironic that the only way this joke would work is if he could convince people to care about the unix 2038 problem. Whatever the hell that is, I don't care.

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  13. "In xkcd world, people look the same 5 years into the future as they do now."

    Yes, Carl, in the near future, most people will have arms, legs, and torsos. Most people will even have heads. Some, but not all, will still have necks (others will have learned the art of cranial levitation, of course).

    [End counter-snark]

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  14. Pat, people in xkcd world have already learned the art of cranial levitation.

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  15. though to Randy's credit they all seem attached in 607 and 606.

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  16. Yeah, but it can only get more popular, right? Necks are such a hassle.

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  17. I actually get the latest one. Not that it's, you know, funny.

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  18. Was there a joke in the latest one? Like...there was no joke.

    Captcha: Fitinall, the weirdest diet product ever.

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  19. "In xkcd world, people look the same 5 years into the future as they do now."

    ...They're adults. It's like that in the real world, too.

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  20. I've been playing a lot of Half-Life 2 lately myself so I was personally offended by this terrible comic.

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  21. ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!
    ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!

    --The Lulziest Lolcat

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  22. Cuddlefish PrimeJuly 7, 2009 at 10:38 PM

    607 = horrible.

    There, I put just as much effort into this post as Randy did in writing 607.

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  23. Harrison: That's where the comic should have gone. Instead of retreading the old meme, have the 2013 player show off old game forums for Portal and say something to the effect of, "Looks like one more advantage to arriving late..."

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  24. #607's basically a Y2K reference for nerds. Unix stores dates as decim... Oh right, nobody fuck about *nix date handling.

    By the way, if you're wondering, there is no joke. Seriously, none. There's barely an observation to be found there.

    It's just Randall saying HEY GUISE I KNOW UNIX LOL AREN'T WE GEEKS NEAT?

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  25. Actually, it isn't that bad. You don't need to understand UNIX to understand the Y2K38 problem: Because of how UNIX time works, it will rollover at a known point in early 2038. Because a lot of 'backbone' systems, as well as embedded systems, run on clocks like this, it could potentially cause a lot of problems, even more than Y2K could've.

    Y2K, obviously, never had any real impact on anyone; especially not the world-ending apocalypse proclamations some were making about it.

    The joke is that the Unix Time problem would be even worse than practically nothing at all happening. Whether that's funny is subjective, but there is a joke, and it's a well known problem, not just a shout-out to *nix fans.

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  26. Switching to 64-bit computing has FUCK ALL to do with solving the Y2038 problem.

    Switching time_t to a 64-bit type is the most straightforward way to solve it, but that has NOTHING AT ALL to do with the register size of the host computer, and the insidious problems with a 32-bit time_t have to do mostly with the fact that a lot of file formats just hardcoded it to be a 4-byte number, JUST LIKE how most of the Y2K issues were because of databases being hardcoded to store a 2-digit year!

    And of course, WHERE IS THE FUCKING JOKE

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  27. (also feba I was not aware that September is early in the year, perhaps you could enlighten me)

    (and y2k would have been a problem if nobody raised a stink about it; the fact that there were very few actual problems is a testament to how well the engineering community banded together to fix a nasty problem caused by years of laziness and short-term thinking, but of course "Problem solved, world doesn't end" doesn't make for very good headlines)

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  28. oh also another straightforward short-ish-term (68-years) fix is to make time_t unsigned instead of signed but that just sort of masks the problem and would have ripple effects with other sloppily-coded systems

    HI i am making up for not being very posty here lately!

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  29. This one is pretty awful, but that GLaDOS/HAL comic is the fucking stupidest thing ever to come out related to Portal. There's no joke there. It's simply "GLaDOS and HAL are both rogue AI's and so I can make a comic about HAL and add GLaDOS JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT, RIGHT? There doesn't need to be a joke, because I can just quote the Portal song because that song is hilarious and so my comic will be hilarious."

    The new one is ugh. It's basically the same premise as the "Oh god guys come 9999 it'll be Y2K all over again except it'll be Y10K lololol" jokes we've been hearin since 1997.

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  30. I purchased HL2 at launch and still play it, along with its episodic expansions....

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  31. 1. When I read Dragonlance Chronicles a few years ago I was talking with friends about the tragic character Reistlin. One of them told me to shut up or something like that because they've all read it and had this discussion years ago.
    2. I totally agree with the alt text. It makes me feel alone and cold inside when I see the abandoned servers of my favorite games.
    3. I do the same as 5 years ago Mr. Stick, and it's not really so different than that South Park episode in which they find a frozen guy from the five years ago city (I forgot its name).

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  32. Fred:
    This reminds me one of the favorite starting lines in Dinosaur Comic:
    (i don't really remember how it goes, but it goes something like that:)
    "You know who is the greatest person?
    Me, T-rex! I am the greatest person!"

    So in this comic it was something like:
    "You know who is a crazy AI new-comer?
    GlaDOS! GlaDOS from Portal is the crazy AI new-comer!"

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  33. "607 = horrible. There, I put just as much effort into this post as Randy did in writing 607."

    Exactly.

    *sigh* its getting harder and harder to even find anything to say anymore. 606 i have nothing, and 607 jesus christ almighty, its just a mediocre passing observation at this point referencing something technical. Its doubtful this will even be an issue 20 years from now in the first place.

    20 years to prepare for this, and who knows what technology will be like in 2038.

    I hate this "cartoon" so much. It's not even a cartoon, i dont even have a name for it.

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  34. Fred:
    SHODAN/HAL9000 one true pairing!

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  35. "People do play old games, you know. Is that so crazy?"

    For some people, actually, it is. The problem here, as I see it, is that playing old games is a very predictable behaviour for the xkcd audience, so Randall is going for a VERY, VERY easy target. And yeah, besides, the actual joke is way, way too lame. Couldn't he think of anything better, really? At least this strip is a reasonable excuse for me to say Portal is probably the worst même-machine EVER. YOUR BRAIN IS A LIE.

    Now, I have the impression that Randall is trying to manipulate my feelings; just as I was ready to proclaim xkcd as "dead", the latest strip redeemed things completely. Yes, it's a nerd joke about computers and UNIX... JUST the kind of thing xkcd used to do back "when it was good". Those who "can't see the joke" are trying too hard to complain about it.

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  36. Also funny is that, lately there were complaints that the maths on xkcd were getting "too easy". Now that Randall is making an observation on a VERY basic and easily understandable UNIX "feature" (it's not a bug!), people complain that they don't get it.

    I've got an idea for a T-shirt now:
    "If your webcomic demands any kind of previous knowledge, it sucks."
    Or better yet:
    "Wikipedia? What is that?"
    Or:
    "Wikipedia? I don't know it, but I hate it already."

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  37. The sad part is so many people do still make Portal references to me. It's been almost two years, guys, I do not need to hear that fucking cake line ever again, especially not from someone who thinks it constitutes humour to reference something.

    Also about the 2038 problem for anyone who isn't entirely certain, on 32 bit systems some time (January 19th I believe) in 2038 the way that UNIX stores time will hit its maximum value (01111111 11111111 11111111 11111111) and in several systems the left-most (most significant) bit actually stores the sign of a number (whether it's positive or negative - 0 for a positive number and 1 for a negative). So it will then increment to (10000000 00000000 00000000 00000000) which is the most negative number, this will reset the date to 1901, breaking any time-dependant systems. You might think we have until 2038 to solve this, but several systems actually have items set to occur some time in the future, hitting the 2038 epoch early, such as this AOL server crash. Workarounds are already underway and it's unlikely to be a problem to the vast majority of people... but of course the issue about embedded systems is there, but I'm sure something will be done to sort it out. 64-bit systems will be unaffected, naturally, as their time will be 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 10000000 00000000 00000000 00000000.

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  38. Technically, there'd be no reason to wait 4-5 years between playing Half Life 2 and Portal. They both use the Source engine; if your PC can run HL2, it can run Portal.

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  39. 607 is terrible. Is this what passes for a joke anymore?

    Take a known computing problem, then have one of the characters say something exaggerated about it. Done.

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  40. It's good to see Fernie back in good old XKCD-apologizer-form.

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  41. there is no joke. Regardless of the problem, there is no fucking joke. It's just a reference to a computer problem

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  42. The first line is, "...because I wasn't looking forward to convincing people to care about the Unix 2038 problem." The reference is that Y2K baffled alot of people because it was supposed to be the apocalypse, and nothing happened, and we've got another one of these issues coming up. The joke is the idea of the Y2K phenomenon happening over this Unix 2038 situation. Like, haha, imagine Y2K happening again, man, we were gullible. It's not a fervent plea for people to wake up, cause, oh my god, the university server might go down for a few hours and I won't get to play 5-year-old games online!

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  43. Fernie, xkcd's constant oscillation from worst.comic.ever. to OMG HE BROUGHT THE FUNNY must be a real rollercoaster.

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  44. Also I think 607's "joke" is "but really only a small portion of nerds aka US use unix so it actually won't be a big deal! hahaha!

    it's not good (duh) but i don't think the "no joke" tack is the correct angle here

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  45. There is definitely an intended joke.

    Though, I would love to meet the person that actually laughs at it. Actually, I'm sure I wouldn't, but I can't believe anyone could find this funny.

    Randall makes the same quality jokes you find on popsicle sticks, but about computers or math. Yeah, they're jokes, but they're so painfully lame and unfunny.

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  46. i love this blog, happy i discovered it today.. and u know i was googling for something like : who hates xkcd, cuz my friend keeps on emailing me these supposed-to-be-jokes, and i never get the fun out of reading them ... he loves them .. so i wanted to know that is it just me, but glad to find this blog, i'm not the only one :)

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  47. Re the numerous "only geeks use Unix!" complaints: The vast majority of the WWW is hosted on Unix servers. You interact with Unix machines on a daily basis.

    Moreover -- and someone correct me if I'm wrong, since it's been a long time since I've done any C/C++ in a Windows environment -- the problem is cross-platform. Using time_t in a Windows environment will still cause you to run into this problem. (Fernie, take note. Also, if you're spelling it UNIX, there's a good chance you're not "xkcd's target audience.")

    None of this makes 607 any funnier, but the point is that there's enough to complain about without talking out your butts about it being an "obscure" Unix comic.

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  48. I, at least, never said it was super obscure or anything, just that I personally didn't get it (I've had ONE computer science class, in high school, that was the basics of Java and object-oriented programming), and that it could well be that it's self-defeating. I don't know.

    The problem makes sense, I suppose, but it seems that there are a number of solutions, short-term and comprehensive, that'll be implemented soon enough. So, um, I'm relieved.

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  49. My expanded opinions of this blag, "Xkcd" haters and Carl "Ugly" Wheeler.
    http://xkcdisaparagonofhilarity.blogspot.com/

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  50. One should also note that, seeing as Half-Life 2 is still having major episodic content released, the "That came out in 2004" statement is made even more ignorant and douchey!

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  51. Excellent point, Napoleon in Drag!

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  52. 607 is also another joke where he makes the joke (unix y2k lolz), then repeats it in the drawing (although he did add nobody uses unix we are teh l33t lolx). for shame, MANDOLL. take that.

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  53. Napoleon in Drag

    Are you saying the cake is a lie crap did not come out in 2004 and came out recently?

    bullshit

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  54. Cuddlefish 12:21 -- How the fuck are you reading THAT into Napoleon's statements?

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  55. But hang on, he tells blatant lies in this one because he has already played Portal and done a comic on it in the past. Which wasn't that good then either.

    So, uhm, it sucks, I think.

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  56. I don't think I saw anyone mention that 606 is essentially comic 286. They both even have the idea that a five year old meme is lame (although 286 supposes that a meme could eventually become cool because it's retro after a few decades).

    My first internet meme was Ate My Balls, which I hope never comes back. My favorite is either All Your Base or the Rickroll.

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  57. Yeah Randall, nice. You know people do play old games just because they're fun. I play HL2 all the time, as well as Counter-Strike Source, KOTOR 2, and Halo. They're all a few years old. It's really not that big of a deal to play old games Randall.

    *sigh*

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  58. I was reading over some of the comment threads on the xkcd forums to see if people were actually enjoying these meager efforts lately.

    In the extrapolating thread, I found this good reply: http://echochamber.me/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=41929#p1662914

    Also, I can seemingly paste right now, did Crandarl fix something? I doubt it, he's too busy double dipping on shirts.

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  59. I'm still giggling about "Mandoll".

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  60. Don't know where to post this, but Sanjay over at Cowbirds referenced Randall in his alt-text a while back. What makes it cool is that he's taking the piss out of Randall's obsession with Jurassic Park.

    http://cowbirdsinlove.com/498

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  61. Dave, Sanjay is a member of the Xkcd forums.
    Username: GodShapedBullet

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  62. He doesn't appear to be some Randall sycophant like most of that board though.

    Consider: http://echochamber.me/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=42176#p1670549

    Plus, looking back a few comics, his comic is pretty good. Easily better than xkcd anymore, at least.

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  63. oh god, they figured out that they can make fun of my name

    oh shit oh shit oh shit i don't know what to do

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  64. oh man oh man better pretend not to care

    oh wait

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  65. Hey Napoleon in Rags

    more like Napoleon in GAY

    haha how do you like that

    (it means you're gay)

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  66. Is there sarcasm here??? There better not be. THE INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.

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  67. I still like Portal, I don't care what anyone says

    xkcd still sucks

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  68. Nobody here is hating on Portal. Just people who quote it referentially as if that is the height of humor.

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  69. The biggest problem I had with 606 is that portal runs on HL2's engine. There are minimal (if any) graphical improvements. So a system that could run HL2 flawlessly could also run Portal just as flawlessly. :\

    and the "y2k38 bug" has been around since the y2k bug was. I distinctly remember reading that it would be a bigger problem back then. Sigh.

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  70. THE CAKE IS A PIE.

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  71. It's a shame that the Portal même because so widespread and cliché, because it pretty much killed off completely my wish to play it.

    And I have to say it here, but putting HAL 9000 and glados in the same strip was probably the most painful, horrifying and suicide-inducing thing Randall ever committed to his webcomic. It's an atrocity, and that strip came as a punch in my face just when I was at the height of my appreciation for xkcd. It would have been less horrible if he had suggested a partnership between J.S. Bach and Scott Stapp (from Creed). Damn that. Randall, get out of my bladder.

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  72. Portal is overrated. There I said it.

    The only reason people think it's ZOMG PERFECT I WUV U GLADOS ^_^ is because it takes 4 hours to beat and only features female characters. That's not good enough, Valve.

    If it had been a full length game, it might have been the greatest game of all time. Now it's just "almost perfect".

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  73. I think Portal is so great because it's a short game with interesting puzzles and a decent sense of humor, and it was just the right length. There's no reason for a game to be "full length" - that would have just been tedious.

    Really, the only parts of Portal which gets excessively quoted are "THE CAKE IS A LIE" and "THIS WAS A TRIUMPH" and those are just two jokes out of like a hundred.

    It's like how when Fight Club came out people were all "THE FIRST RULE ABOUT blah IS YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT blah" and "YOU ARE NOT A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE."

    People just have a tendency to quote the most memorable lines in pretty good things. It is probably one of those things which started out as a survival trait but went goofy when we stopped being hunter/gatherers. It's like bees communicating pollen locations or something.

    Don't hate something just because everyone else likes it enough that they quote it incessantly.

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  74. "It's a shame that the Portal même because so widespread and cliché, because it pretty much killed off completely my wish to play it."

    By putting an accent on "meme" (it's an English word! look it up!), you have unlocked the Captain Douchebag achievement.

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  75. I started to hate Portal once it got overrated majorly. Sort of like xkcd.

    Yeah, it's fun, but it's also way too easy and short. Not that there's a problem with that, but the game ends right when it's starting to get challenging. You can fly through that game without much trouble, even on your first time through.

    Considering I had already played Narbacular Drop (by the same people obviously), I wasn't giving Portal a pass just for novelty.

    I'm not saying it was bad or anything. It just became hugely overhyped by reviews and people alike. I enjoyed Episode 2 out of the Orange Box a lot more, actually.

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  76. Also, I will never understand Fernie's true feelings about xkcd. They bizarrely go from one extreme to another every day.

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  77. theory: fernie is both carl and randall

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  78. Releasing Portal was like putting out a 30 min motion picture with the best actors and plot, and calling that a movie.

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  79. 5 years from 2004 is 2009. 5 years from that is 2014. 2013, Randy?

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  80. Releasing Portal was like putting out a 30 min motion picture with the best actors and plot, and calling that a movie.

    Or putting out a fifty-page work of written fiction with incredible plot and characters and themes and calling it a short story.

    First of all, there IS no generally accepted length for a single-player game, the way movies are typically between 90 and 180 minutes long. Six to eight hours for a game is reasonable--but so is thirty to fifty, depending on the genre. So is two to four. There isn't a magic number that makes a game become full-length.
    Second, there simply is no intrinsic virtue in a game being long OR a game being hard. Portal was short and easy but very, very good. I haven't checked, but I would be extremely surprised if there wasn't an extensive modding community that's used the SDK to build tons of new Portal levels.

    Third, Portal never even purported to be as long as most current generation games--it costs $20, and if you got the Orange Box and count everything in it as one game it averaged out to $10 or $12 there. $6 now that the Orange Box is ridiculously cheap. So, at the VERY least, nobody ripped you off by charging you fifty or sixty bucks for a mere four hours of entertainment.

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  81. Incidentally, a short film still counts as a movie. Perhaps you were thinking of "feature film?"

    CAPTCHA: unwhig

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  82. I rather like the recent trend towards keeping games shorter and more concise. 60 hours of game is no fun when 55 of them are filler. Braid and Portal were both exactly the right length.

    Similarly, short films can be much more satisfying than feature-length movies. A lot of stories really only need half an hour to be told and don't need to be dragged out to 2+ hours (I am looking at you Steven Spielberg!).

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  83. Yes. I pretty much exclusively write short fiction etc. Concision is a good thing.

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  84. @Rob: I was all ready to tell you it's "conciseness," but "concision" is also a word! What do you know. (Obscure forms of common words, apparently.)

    @Anonymoose: "Releasing Portal was like putting out a 30 min motion picture with the best actors and plot, and calling that a movie."

    I'd watch it. I'd buy it if it were that good.

    I bought the Orange Box for TF2 and I've gotten 100+ hours of enjoyment out of that. As an added bonus, I also got ~3 hours of fun out of Portal. It was great.

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  85. People don't use concision? Huh. I had no idea.

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  86. I was going to go for "concisity".

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  87. Just try to avoid circoncision.

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  88. Rob: I dub thee Sir Concision.

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  89. Novel, n.
    A short story padded.
    -- Ambrose Bierce

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  90. @Adam/Rob "@Rob: I was all ready to tell you it's "conciseness," but "concision" is also a word! What do you know. (Obscure forms of common words, apparently.)

    How fitting it is that Rob used "concision", which is a more concise way of saying "conciseness", and what really makes this funny to me is that he favors shorter worked of fiction.

    OH THE IRONY!

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  91. There is absolutely nothing ironic about that. Not even Alanis-ironic.

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  92. "People don't use concision? Huh. I had no idea."

    http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=concision&word2=conciseness

    I guess I'm wrong.

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  93. I wonder if it's regional.

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  94. you guys i am so late to this party

    Fernie, I feel like your usage of the name "Fernie" is an insult to my friend who goes by the same nickname. These are my feelings.

    Jay, your name rhymes more with "gay" than anyone else's name here! OH WHAT NOW BEEEEYOTCHHHH (napoleon i got yo back)

    CAPTCHA: pucking

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  95. the whole portals thing was around in 2006.
    just not the commercial game.

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  96. Seems like you might be reading way too into it.

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  97. 100th comment
    BOOYAH

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  98. man, for people who hate xkcd, you sure do seem to read a lot of it

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  99. yeah we basically read all of them, so we can criticize them. qed.

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  100. Carl said: "In xkcd world, people look the same 5 years into the future as they do now."

    This is a prime example of the kind of inane criticisms found scattered throughout this blog.

    FFS, I look pretty much the same now as I did five years ago, and whatever differences there are sure as hell wouldn't be noticeable if I were rendered in stick figure form.

    What, do you think that five years later he should have a fucking walking stick? Or maybe they should all be wearing space-age bubblesuits?

    It's not just that you over think things when trying to criticise this strip - it's that you over think things in a stupidly misguided way.

    For example, carping over the fact that Portal came out in late 2007. Yes, this means that for the character to be quoting from it in early 2013, he probably played it five years and a few months after the release date. OMG! But he said five years! THAT IS NOT EXACTLY FIVE YEARS! RANDALL FAIL!!! Derrrrrrrrrrrrr!

    Oh wait... I just saw this comment from Carl:

    "I dunno - how hard is it to add 2007 to 5, and get 2012 as the correct result? I thought he liked math."

    Ahahahaha. You idiot. If he was playing it at any time before October 2012, it would mean he was playing it LESS than five years after the release date.

    Here, let me explain: if he was playing it in mid January 2013, and the game was released on October 9, 2007, that would mean the game had been out for almost FIVE years and 3.5 months. (ie. A little under 3 months of 2007 + 2008 + 2009 + 2010 + 2011 + 2012 + half a month of 2013 = 5 years + just under 3.5 months)

    The fact that you just went: duhhhh, 2007 + 5 = 2012 shows how inept you are at grasping even simple concepts.

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