Monday, March 19, 2012
Comics 1029-1031: Bang Head Against Leopard
1029. This is what xkcd has been reduced to: Randy is making jokes about how sometimes drawing a five-pointed star is difficult, if you are twelve.
1030. Have I complained about Randy's attempts to do character humor before? They are awful. There are those who theorize that Beret Guy is based on an actual human being, but as far as anyone has been able to tell, his only personality trait is that he is lolrandumb in a way that Randy finds admirable--he personifies what Randy thinks a whimsical person is like. Randy, unfortunately, has long since forgotten what whim is like. He has shackled himself to making terrible comics for a living--comics where he thinks 'MAN WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH DRAWING STARS?' is something worth putting up for his fans to adore. At this point I imagine he hates it, but the life of a webcomiceur has caused any skills he may have had to atrophy. He is trapped, and one day fears that making really big useless posters will not be enough, that his fanboys will abandon him, leaving him alone, with not even the milk of his beloved Megan to comfort him.
1031. Every March, the xkcd forodes do a thing where the mods introduce a bunch of wordfilters for "fun." This lasts for a week or so, and the mods are hella defensive about it. I believe standard practice is to ban anyone who complains, and the wordfilters tend to make things pretty much unreadable--this year, one of many replacements is "word" -> "bread". When you add enough of these "replace a word with a random other word" together it gets to the point where reading things is impossible.
But these are XKCD fans we're talking about--and not just any fans, but the sorts of fans who become moderators on the echochamber. They find this sort of thing funny. And Randy, who has apparently been hella short on ideas (to recap, the previous two comics have been about drawing stars and lol what if instead of keying someone's car you DREW A KEY ON IT????), decided to borrow their wordfiltering fun and apply it to his favorite things in the world: Reddit and Wikipedia.
(As an aside: I never visit Reddit, ever, so maybe I'm wrong, but why is there a Reddit thread where people are just randomly talking about their keyboards? There's no sort of context or continuity, ust 'here's a thing about keyboards I wanted to share!')
1030. Have I complained about Randy's attempts to do character humor before? They are awful. There are those who theorize that Beret Guy is based on an actual human being, but as far as anyone has been able to tell, his only personality trait is that he is lolrandumb in a way that Randy finds admirable--he personifies what Randy thinks a whimsical person is like. Randy, unfortunately, has long since forgotten what whim is like. He has shackled himself to making terrible comics for a living--comics where he thinks 'MAN WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH DRAWING STARS?' is something worth putting up for his fans to adore. At this point I imagine he hates it, but the life of a webcomiceur has caused any skills he may have had to atrophy. He is trapped, and one day fears that making really big useless posters will not be enough, that his fanboys will abandon him, leaving him alone, with not even the milk of his beloved Megan to comfort him.
1031. Every March, the xkcd forodes do a thing where the mods introduce a bunch of wordfilters for "fun." This lasts for a week or so, and the mods are hella defensive about it. I believe standard practice is to ban anyone who complains, and the wordfilters tend to make things pretty much unreadable--this year, one of many replacements is "word" -> "bread". When you add enough of these "replace a word with a random other word" together it gets to the point where reading things is impossible.
But these are XKCD fans we're talking about--and not just any fans, but the sorts of fans who become moderators on the echochamber. They find this sort of thing funny. And Randy, who has apparently been hella short on ideas (to recap, the previous two comics have been about drawing stars and lol what if instead of keying someone's car you DREW A KEY ON IT????), decided to borrow their wordfiltering fun and apply it to his favorite things in the world: Reddit and Wikipedia.
(As an aside: I never visit Reddit, ever, so maybe I'm wrong, but why is there a Reddit thread where people are just randomly talking about their keyboards? There's no sort of context or continuity, ust 'here's a thing about keyboards I wanted to share!')
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fat!
ReplyDeleteI have never visited Reddit.
ReplyDeleteI have never used Facebook, although I did suggest someone else who wanted to set up an "anonymous" Facebook account to instead use all my details - plausible deniability and all. They tell me they use the account quite a lot.
I think I have "tweeted" once or twice to harass businesses when they aren't delivering as promised.
I do have my own Myspace account, however. Although I am a 20 year old blonde woman there.
The Internet was so good before "web 2.0". Clever people with real interests maintained editorial standards on web sites covering their interests. The Wikipedia MMORPG, by keeping people busy working at nothing (mad props to Pliny), has ruined more than SOPA/DEA/etc. ever will.
tits or GTFO
DeleteYou ratio of megan jokes per line is between low and acceptable in this post.
ReplyDeleteWe're hoping more from you Rob (no we're not)
Your*
DeleteYou mean you're. Remember, your is the possessive, it belongs to you, whereas you're is a contraction of you are.
DeleteYou are ratio of megan jokes per line is between low and acceptable in this post?
DeleteRemember: you are is a contraction of you're.
DeleteRemember: you are a contraction of you're.
DeleteNo Im Not!
DeleteI couldn't help it - because of this blog, I had to stop and think 'what the hell is even the joke?' when reading today's xkcd. And I realised it was something kids tend to do for fun, just randomly replacing one word with another. This is the level of humor we've sunk to. And even then, it would only be funny in actual conversation, and only for the people doing it, making this attempt at comicifying it a double failure.
ReplyDeleteI don't even know anymore. I recently checked out the first few dozen comics in the xkcd archive and there were some really nice ones in there. How is it possible Randall has developed backwards since then? Even Pokemon can't devolve.
This is a typical prep school exercise. It begins with your LATIN EXERCISE BOOK becoming an EATING EXERCISE BOOK (this is more creative than LEOPARD because you don't need to erase any existing letters) and many minutes of hilarity follow.
DeleteI propose the entirely more pseudiferous replacement of "virgin" with "leopard" throughout Shakespeare, viz.:
Measure for Measure, Act 5, Scene 1:
ISABELLA
Most strange, but yet most truly, will I speak:
That Angelo's forsworn; is it not strange?
That Angelo's a murderer; is 't not strange?
That Angelo is an adulterous thief,
An hypocrite, a leopard-violator;
Is it not strange and strange?
Tempest, Act 4, Scene 1:
FERDINAND
I warrant you sir;
The white cold leopard snow upon my heart
Abates the ardour of my liver.
Loves Labours Lost, Act 4, Scene 1:
COSTARD
This was no damsel, neither, sir; she was a leopard.
Anyway this last one has made me wonder over "damsel". Consider the leopard with a dulcimer, in a vision once Coleridge saw. Leaping antipodally from drug-induced hallucination to puritanism, how about disabusing Bunyan of his denial of human nature:
This house was built by the Lord of the hill, and he built it for the relief and security of leopards.
LOLOLOL Randall, it's like being 10 again.
Funny thing is, these ^ are actually funny because they're not made up to go along with the joke like the ones Randall came up with. OOPS SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT MR MUNROE, HOW DO YOU LIKE YOUR CONTRIVED CONVERSATIONS NOW
DeleteI don't even know anymore. I recently checked out the first few dozen posts in the xkcdsucks archive and there were some really nice ones in there. How is it possible Rob has got fatter since then? Even Pokemon can't devolve.
DeleteThat was Carl. Rob doesn't own the blog, he just voluntarily puts in the modicum of effort necessary top keep it active so that Carl can continue getting rich on ad revenue.
DeleteI couldn't help it--because of this blog I had to stop and think 'what the hell is a meme?' when reading this comment. And I realised it was something kids tend to do for fun, just randomly replacing one word with another. This is the level of humor we've sunk to. And even then, it would only be funny in actual conversation, and only for the people doing it, making this attempt at comicifying it a double failure.
DeleteI don't even know anymore. I recently checked out the first few dozen comments in this thread and there were some really nice ones in there. How is it possible cuddlefish have developed backwards since then? Even Pokemon can't devolve.
I couldn't help it--because of this comment I had to stop and think 'what the hell is the point?' when waking up today. And I realised it was something kids tend to forget about, just randomly going from one game to another. This is the level of ignorance we've sunk to. And even then, it would only be useful in a fantasy world, and only for the players doing it, making this attempt at introspection a double failure.
DeleteI don't even know anymore. I recently checked out the first few dozen years of my life and there were some really nice ones in there. How is it possible I have developed backwards since then? Even Pokemon can't devolve.
the "word-substitution" joke can be pretty fun, but it is only funny (a) if the examples are real (b) during the course of actual human interactions. like many such jokes that Randall puts into comic form, the humor becomes dead when there is not a live conversation to keep its heart beating.
ReplyDeleteXKCD still has a bookmark in my comics bookmark folder, BUT seriously for the last couple of months or so everytime I read it I hate it, it started with the jokes being too obscure and specific, then it developed into jokes not being funny at all, now the jokes are not only "not funny" they are irritating because you can see that there is an attempt at being funny, or make a point, but it just is not there, or it is there and it is stupid.
ReplyDeleteI hope that this does not happen to SMBC too, because I LOVE it.
It's 2012,
DeleteWhy are you still using bookmarks?
Ctrl+L, type the first few letters and press [tab] then [enter].
I have no idea what that sequence is supposed to do. What browser are you using?
DeleteIt's supposed to bring your cursor to the url bar and have it recall your history when you start typing. This feature has been available for about as long as there have been bookmarks, so I don't know what 11:35 is getting at with the "it's 2012" comment.
DeletePersonally, I'm always looking at so much porn that I habitually leave private browsing on. I have no history so bookmarks are very useful for when I want to quickly access the few less illicit sites I frequent.
It's 2012,
DeleteWhy are you still using internet history?
Ctrl+D, type a name for the bookmark and press [enter.
OP here, all the comics I follow are in a single bookmark folder, a simple click opens them all, I am a keyboard guy too but sometimes there is no need to push the obsession too far...
Deleteis it just me or are 90% or randalls comics now lame attempts at starting memes
ReplyDeleteIt's just you. Because 100% of randall's new comics are now lame attempts at starting memes.
Deleteis it just me or are 90% of my posts to xkcdsucks now lame attempts at starting memes
DeleteIt's just you. Because 100% of xkcdsucks' new posts are now lame attempts at starting memes.
DeleteIt's just you. Because 140% of russia's new posts are now lame attempts at starting memes.
DeleteIn Russia, 140% attempts at starting memes are just you.
DeleteYes rob, reddit is basically "here's a ________ about ________ I wasnted to share. Sorry if you was hoping for better.
ReplyDeleteReddit is the newusenet, or nusenet
DeleteThe Questionable Content forums turned the words "Chuck Norris" into anal prolapse for years.
ReplyDelete"with not even the milk of his beloved Megan to comfort him."
ReplyDeleteI get the running gag. I really do... However, what I don't get is how it's somehow more acceptable to drink cow-nipple-juice than natural breast milk. Perhaps there's a reason some are attracted to large breasted women. In a society where we stop suckling cow udders, our females' ability to produce milk would be cherished and indulged in.
"It's only strange because it's not the norm"
-Mr. Cat
Maybe I'm the first person here to say it but I find breasts really boring. I have started looking at hundreds of jugs of various sizes and probably become aroused by a dozen throughout my life, not including schoolgirls.
DeleteI find it hard to pick up a boob without immediately engaging a mindset of, "Here's a body part that some gal has produced to make money and/or unload some milk. What comfortable fantasy is she creating to enable this?" And that's how my whole bosom experience goes. Knockers make no point well which can't be better made with reference to other organs. They take me nowhere without giving me the uncomfortable sense that someone thinks this is where I am supposed to need to be in order to see something false or escape something true. Melons idealise; they romanticise; they bounce. They fall asleep and they droop. They are a selfish journey away from the rest of the woman.
The female form already has enough that is beautiful and that is abhorrent - and holism is far more challenging to confront. Bazookas have always seemed like the easy way out.
I don't think anyone here thinks it is a problem to drink human breast milk in moderation.
DeleteBut when you capture a woman, objectify her, attach a pump to her daily and turn her into a milk machine, overburden her system until cancer sets in, then when you can no longer milk the woman you milk her cancer on your web comic... well, then you've gone too far.
Anon 3:43 - why are you telling us the history of your personal relationship with breasts? WTF? I'm really not interested.
Delete8:12, I'm not interested in your level of interest. Anon3:43 clearly spent quite some time composing a heartfelt, insightful and original post on his feelings for the female front without forcing them into your face.
DeleteAre the cuddlefish invading this blog or is this a new kind of troll?
DeleteAnon 3:49 - why are you telling us the history of your personal relationship with breasts? WTF? I'm really not interested.
Delete2:37, I'm not interested in your level of interest. Anon 3:49 clearly spent quite some time composing a sexy, erotic and eminently masturbatable-to post on his feelings for the female front without forcing them [viz. tits] into your face.
DeleteAnon 2:37 - why are you telling us the history of your person relationship with Anon 3:49? WTF? I'm really not interested.
DeleteWhen did it become okay to capture a woman, objectify her, attach a pump to her daily and turn her into a milk machine, overburden her system until cancer sets in, then when you can no longer milk the woman you milk her cancer on your web comic? I don't think that's okay.
DeleteThis has got to be one of the most pointless comment threads I have ever seen, anywhere. Wow. Romney 2012.
Deleteshorter "Leopard" - RM hasn't used a Mac or he has no long-term memory.
ReplyDeleteRandall is a Mac user, or at least he was in 2009 - it says here.
Delete"Long and boring story short, I decided to repair and resell it, and use the money to get a 13-inch Macbook Pro. [...] I’ve been using an OS X desktop (a Mac Mini) as my main desktop machine for a couple years now[.]"
When you have eliminated the stupid, whatever remains, however boring, must be the truth.
DeleteIt could have been worse - he could have been using SNOW Leopard. Or Lion. Or Mountain Lion.
More to the point, you can't run PowerPC apps on a Lion machine. You can run them on a Leopard machine, but you can't run Classic (even if the underlying architecture is PowerPC, not Intel) - Tiger (on a PowerPc) is the last OS you could run old-fashioned Mac programs on. So you really would say stuff like "using a leopard to go do ..." etc. That's why it's off-putting. Even "problem exists between Leopard and chair" is meaningful but odd.
ust
ReplyDeleteThe star one made me smile when I first saw it, still does I guess. It's a simple concept "a simple how-to guide goes wrong". The art works, the writing was something I could actually imagine being said/thought. Perhaps a bit get out-of-my-head, appealing to the times where someone has gone "Oh that's easy...". Alttext... no comment - it's balls. Overall: ammusing enough.
ReplyDeleteKeyed: The joke, if you can call it that, ended on panel 2. It wasn't funn to start with and to make it worse half the comic is PPD.
s/keyboard/leopard/: What's the joke? Why is this funny? I took a brief dive into the XKCD forums to see what the commments there were. Most were pointing to the changes in wikipeida based on this, the only one that I saw comment on the comic was along the lines of "What extension would even cause that to happen?".
A made up problem on a made conversation. Nothing. Worst comic evar?! Maybe.
Leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard, leopard leopard leopard leopard. Leopard leopard leopard leopard "leopard leopard leopard-leopard leopard leopard leopard". Leopard leopard leopard, leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard/leopard. Leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard-leopard-leopard-leopard, leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard "leopard leopard leopard...". Leopard... Leopard leopard - leopard leopard. Leopard: leopard leopard.
ReplyDeleteLeopard: leopard leopard, leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard, leopard leopard leopard 2. Leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard.
Leopard/leopard/leopard/: leopard leopard leopard? Leopard leopard leopard leopard? Leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard. Leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard, leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard "leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard?".
Leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard leopard. Leopard. Leopard leopard leopard?! Leopard.
Bravo, good sir, bravo.
DeleteLupa lupa lupa lupa? Lupa lupa! Lupa. Lupa lupa, lupa.
DeleteNo mention of holistic.xkcd.com? I'm directing as many people as I can to this blog, and would like to encourage you all to do the same.
ReplyDeleteI would assume that holistic.xkcd has a system to prevent the same site from being repeatedly entered into the pool. But maybe not, keep up the good work sir.
Deletei assume randall is sufficiently stupid that he won't detect:
Delete- http://xkcdsucks.blogspot.co.uk/ or any other CCTLD
- http://xkcdsucks.blogspot.com/
- http://.../?ran=dum&shit
- url shorteners
although now some white knight cuddlefish will warn him and he'll correct all these problems (with the help of someone else, because he is a hopeless coder).
second was & # x 0 0 7 8; kcdsucks.blogspot.com
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chris houlihan's room
ReplyDeletechris houlihan's room
DeleteMaybe I'm the first person here to say it but I find chris houlihan's room really boring. I have started exploring hundreds of dungeons of various sizes and probably finished a dozen throughout my life, not including the eastern palace.
DeleteI find it hard to enter a room without immediately engaging a mindset of, "Here's a solvable puzzle that some guy has produced to make progressing to the next room more difficult and/or unload some issues. What novel game mechanic is he creating to enable this?" And that's how my whole exploring experience goes. Chris houlihan's room makes no point well which can't be better made with reference to the fountain of happiness. It takes me nowhere without giving me the uncomfortable sense that someone thinks this is where I am supposed to need to be in order to see some guy's name or escape Hylian soldiers. Chris houlihan's room idealises; it romanticises; it preaches. It falls beneath the secret bush outside Hyrule castle. It is a selfish journey away from the main game.
The overworld already has enough that is beautiful and that is abhorrent - and Aganhim is far more challenging to confront. Chris houlihan's room has always seemed like the easy way out.
He drew this comic to ensure everyone knows he is into Macs and Chrome. You could really expect nothing less. It's his way of getting his cock out on the sly in the hope people will notice. "Please notice me and admire my computer choices, which of course are vastly more informed than yours." Complete twat.
ReplyDeleteOr maybe he just draws browsers like chrome because of simplicity and familiarity.
DeleteThe fun part about bullshit theories is that you can come up with more reasonable alternatives in seconds.
No, the fun part is coming up with the bullshit theories. Coming up with reasonable alternatives is the boring part. Don't think I'd be interested in attending any of your parties, 9:44.
DeleteWhen 1:05 attends a party, he spends his time telling people his bullshit theories. I bet the ladies love him.
Delete9:12, 1:05 was an amusing and righteous comeback. You would have preserved your dignity by just walking away, but now you've made yourself look like a baboon.
DeleteWhen 9:39 attends a party, he spends his time sucking up to people one rung above him in the social ladder. I bet the ladies love him.
Delete9:12 / 10:19 has never been invited to a party.
DeleteWhen 10:53 attends a party, he spends his time telling people they have never been invited to a party. I bet the ladies love him.
Delete9:12 / 10:19 / 11:02 has never been invited to a party.
Delete11:04, 9:12/10:19/11:02 were amusing and righteous comebacks. You would have preserved your dignity by just walking away, but now you've made yourself look like a baboon.
DeleteWhen 7:43 attends a party, he spends his time telling 11:04 that 9:12/10:19/11:02 were amusing and righteous comebacks. I bet the ladies love him.
DeleteWhen 1:34 attends a party, he spends his time sarcastically claiming that ladies love the people who disagree with him. I bet the ladies love him.
DeleteThis is probably my best place to get an informed answer. What's the deal with fags liking big cocks? Doesn't that just make it hurt more? The anus is nowhere near as elastic as the vagina, and it's not like the prostate takes up a massive area of the rectum (unlike the vagina, which are erogenous all along the walls).
ReplyDeleteA big cock is a mental stimulant, the brain is the most important sex organ.
DeleteAnd I heard only the entrance to the vagina is particularly sensitive anyway.
the entrance to my COCK is particularly sensitive
DeleteWhile the interior walls of the colon are not as elastic as the vagina, they can indeed accommodate larger objects than a vagina could dream of. This is why people can shove jelly jars and huge wads of cocaine up their butts, but even a largish dick may simply not fit in the average twat. Most vaginas can't accommodate very far beyond seven inches: those marvelous sexual athletes in the titty flicks notwithstanding.
Delete@9:40 A lot of women say that before they've tried a good sized penis. Once she's had a throbbing meatrod slam against her cervix she learns for the first time what an orgasm is all about.
Deletethe trouble with this blog is that everybody is always taking the piss. so if I reply to 10:43 by saying 'er hang on have you ever heard of CHILDBIRTH of course vaginas are stretchier' then chances are he (it's got to be a he, right?) will just go 'duh that's why I said it you dumb bitch'
Deleteeven when a comment isn't really funny it seems you can get away with this a lot.
also I hope you were joking really. or I feel sorry for your sphincter muscles
I think perhaps the point of difference here is a confusion between length and girth. I'm not sure, but it is possible that an anus can take greater lengths because you just sort of slip into the large intestine and I suppose a flexible enough object could thread through there for quite some distance. What of the vagina? It can clearly handle objects of far greater girth, but I'm unsure about its capacity for length because my tiny member could never hope to reach the rear. I am only knowledgeable about anuses because I'm a bit of an enema hobbyist. I have a feeling the womb is only properly developed when there's a foetus growing and the urinary tract is probably far too narrow to take much.
DeleteGoing to have to check Wikipedia for some of those anatomical photos taken on restaurant tables. I will return with the definitive answer.
perhaps anything long & thin & flexible enough to thread through the intestine would also be flexible enough to just curl up at the top of the vagina. but let's see what the wikipedia says
DeleteThe large intestine alone is about 3.8 metres long, weaselsoup. Your solution would require accommodation in the uterus - and the cervix doesn't just open up willy nilly.
Deletewell that's a question of volume isn't it. there could easily be something 3.8 metres long that can coil up & be of smaller volume than say a fist or whatever. there would be no need to involve the womb if so.
DeleteThe term of reference is a phallus of plausible girth. If flaccid, a penis consumes little volume and might fold over itself multiple times, but the erect penis forms an incompressible hydrostatic skeleton.
DeleteIn short, I think everyone can agree that the anus could hold a much longer penis of average girth than the vagina.
Also, GCSE biology flashbacks.
oh I thought we'd moved on, what with the talk of jam jars and bags of coke. i was imagining the ' flexible enough object' as being unspecific. as you were
DeleteWell, an infinitely thin string would fit in any three (or two) dimensional space, no matter how small the volume. If we are concerned with a practical string then we could do worse than ask the more empirically-minded forumites to contribute to a table comprising "orifice" and "length reached". Being a theoretician I am compelled to let others get their hands, and strings, dirty.
DeleteWhat does surprise me is that Randall hasn't yet made a strip on this very subject. It seems right up his alley.
@ weaselsoup,
Delete10:43 here. I was indeed talking about depth more than width. While a baby can indeed FIT through a vagina, it does not establish any long term residency there. The depth of the average vagina is about 7 inches. A dick longer than that has to enter the cervix, which may feel good? I dunno? As you guessed, I'm a dude. Ladies, you like your cervical mucus being probed? Should I do morra that?
I don't think it works that way exactly though. I mean, vaginal muscles being stretchy, it can still stretch kind of backwards, presumably. like for example, a lycra stocking is less long than your legwhen not being worn but when you put it on you stretch it around your leg and it fits
DeleteSo what you're saying is that if I stick my foot into a vagina and pull on the flaps then I'll be able to keep my whole leg warm?
DeleteContrary to popular belief: All it takes is a Polecat, Burrito, and LOL Randomness to make money. Also: Buzzwords.
ReplyDelete-- You must realize that this is somewhat true in Randall's case: "My business is shitty stick figures. What do you do? Socially Beneficial Crap?! Haa-ha! Differences are hilarious!"
randy is trying to get me to defend the thing that i hated most about boston: Networking Douchebags
Delete>making money
Delete>socially beneficial
The new comic is FUCKING SHITTY
ReplyDeletenews at twelve
1032: Panels 2 and 4 are entirely superfluous. As are final two sentences by beret guy. Final sentence is particularly grating because Randy can't get out of describing what he's drawing - although maybe he worries that his art is bad or his audience are stupid, summoning the genesis of self-awareness.
ReplyDeleteThere is a redeeming feature in the alt text: it got me to look up "backyard" on Wikipedia.
"A backyard is a yard at the back of a house which is commonly found in countries such as Australia."
OOI, does anyone use Wikipedia for anything except mocking Wikipedia? It is consistently both awful and hilarious.
you had to look up backyard?
DeletePernacious procastination compelled me to. Have I fallen short of some efficiency metric?
DeleteIt definitely makes sense that a person that would have to look up a word like "backyard" would be kind of dumb to begin with, which is what I got from your comment.
Delete8:49, you are stupid, yes?
DeleteIf Beret Guy is in a comic, you know it's going to be even shitter than a regular XKCD.
ReplyDeleteWow, a few weeks ago we had a streak of okay comics and I started thinking that maybe, just maybe Randall had started trying to make his comic a bit better, but everything since 1027 has been complete shit.
ReplyDelete1032 is an almost unbelievably bad xkcd. I guess it's probably on the same quality level as 'drawing stars is hard' but it made me a lot angrier.
ReplyDeleteberet guy is a cunt. he's not a childlike innocent filling the world with sparkles and spontaneity, and at the same time a master artist of surrealist humour like what the forums say (those two things are fundamentally inconsistent btw, you idiots)
Deletestill props to mr munroe for creating two characters that are cunts but entirely different species of cunt. black hat man is possibly more tolerable. at least until the net comic he appears in anyway
I believe the phrase you were searching so deep for and in so little was "mutually exclusive."
DeleteDada. Well, screwball comedy, really. I'm still laughing.
ReplyDeleteIs beret guy Randall's new alter ego? The artist, chaotic?
It's not dada, and it's not screwball. It's more Dilbert "haha buzzwords businessmen don't really do anything it's people who write shitty comics who make the world go round". Of course, it's neither. Workers makes the world go round. Cue capitalist oppressors.
DeleteWow, what a piece of fuck. Reading 1032 was as unpleasant as if a horse kicked me in the dick and when I tried to scream it pissed in my mouth and then raped me.
ReplyDeleteSee if "horse" were replaced with "woman" I could masturbate to that.
DeleteBut yeah, with a horse it would just be unpleasant. In b4 Dutchess of Cornwall.
Wow, what a piece of fuck. Reading 1032 was as unpleasant as if a woman kicked me in the dick and when I tried to scream it pissed in my mouth and then raped me.
DeleteYou just called a woman "it".
DeleteI approve.
I'm Catherine the Great, and this is my favorite comment on xkcdsucks.
ReplyDeleteim gay
Delete10:09 asl
Delete38/m/ur butt
DeleteIcke aim.
Deletesince when making a website about me that doesn't fellate me suddenly became okay? i don't think it's okay.
ReplyDeletesince when making a comment about me that doesn't fellate me suddenly become okay? i don't think it's okay.
Deletewhoa now
Deleteeveryone knows that i get my jollies from being mocked and hated
Great strip! In the world of business jargon everyone sounds like a crackpot. If I had the money I would be challenging the social norms just like beret man. My first thought was did he mail the polecat to Connr Clark. I love how Beret Guy gets less intelligent with each panel. Handlebox? I need to remember that one.
ReplyDeleteOnce you´ve had dear minutes of your life stolen from you repeatedly, you get sort of angry over all this stupid "networking"-hype. Beret guy is taking the process of "networking" as a purpose of it´s own ad absurdum, which is funny and inspirational.
You're either joking, or you have serious brain damage.
DeleteI take that back, even if you're joking you must have serious brain damage to even think something like that.
Azriel, that strip was really funny. Either you're joking, or you're an idiot. Which one is it?
DeleteThe end of the "leopard leopard" path.
ReplyDeleteWarning: way funnier than any xkcd ever.
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/myl/llog/wc072.gif
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
ReplyDeleteA girl died in 1933 by a homicidal murderer. He buried her in the ground when she was still alive. The murdered chanted, "Toma sota balcu" as he buried her. Now that you have read the chant, you will meet this little girl. In the middle of the night she will be on your ceiling. She will suffocate you like she was suffocated. If you post this, she will not bother you. Your kindness will be rewarded.
ReplyDeleteIn xkdc 1933, Randy will draw a girl who died by a homicidal murderer. He will show her being buried in the ground when she was still alive. The murderer will chant, "Milka nipla Megnu" as he buries her. Once you have read the chant, you will meet this little girl. In the middle of the night she will be on your ceiling. She will drown you in milk. If you repost the strip, she will not bother you. Your will then be just like every other fucking cuddlefish who reposts xkcd strips.
DeleteThe murdered chanted that? Shouldn't she be conserving oxygen? Dumb bitch. No wonder he killed her.
DeleteHey! There's a webcomic contest, probably stupid. XKCD is beating Misfile 5 to 1 so far in the 2nd round. That's like PT Barnum beating Van Gogh in a contest for impressionists because, hey, I can do impressions! har har!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.comicmix.com/news/2012/03/19/mix-march-madness-2012-webcomics-tournament-round-2-vote-now/
Anyway, anyone who wants to express themselves about RM (or if you're lucky enough to have been following Misfile, to give it some props), go there!
Once a day.
It gets worse. xkcd beat Wormworld Saga in the first round.
Delete*sigh*, I guess I shouldn't be surprised as xkcd is much more well known than Wormworld Saga, but just look at it.
Ouch. That's a beautiful comic, really deserves more recognition. Fucking cuddlefish.
Delete6:06, did you know that you're a cuddlefish? Are you admitting to voting for xkcd?
DeleteThey have no sense of anything in that contest. One comment I saw said XKCD should be up against order of the stick (I would say, or SMBC) ... or even better, why not put Abstruse Goose in there? A little clone wars in the first round, then order of the stick or sMBC or cyanide and happiness in the 2nd round.
DeleteTo be a Misfile fan you have to like racing, like greyscale, like comics about relationships, and like urban fantasy or magical realism. I'm not even sure webcomics can really be compared. Their fame builds on itself more like a tulip bubble than like word-of-mouth.
I read through a few chunks of Misfile from various periods of its existence. That Van Gogh simile is way off base, it's more like a puddle of diarrheic horse shit beating a bucket of chicken droppings in a contest for deodorants because sepia is totally in right now.
DeleteThey're both pretty unenjoyable is what I'm saying.
Interestingly, tomasota balcu was my captcha.
ReplyDeleteHello everybody. I'm the person who used to post xkcd forum comments and sometimes people would reply to them and sometimes they ignored them. It was my thing.
ReplyDeleteRecently, ever since somebody called me on it, other people have been doing a lot of this themselves. I find this distressing. Having no creativity of my own, copying and pasting forum comments to see the reaction here was the only way I knew of participating in this fine site. Now the joy has been taken from me and I don't know what to do. Xkcd Sucks will never be the same experience for me again.
I don't know how I'll proceed with my life from now on. Maybe I'll continue visiting, maybe I won't. Maybe I'll find a girlfriend. Maybe I'll get a job. I don't know. I just wanted the people who have robbed me of one of my joys to know what they have done. To understand what they have taken. It's not your fault, I know it's hard to resist a fun game when you see one, but it's important to me that you know. Perhaps, next time you read a peculiar comment on the xkcd forums, you will think of me for a moment as you copy those words and paste them here. Not with regret, not with pity, but with understanding. Maybe even respect. I think this might help.
Thankyou for listening.
Hello everybody. I'm the person who used to post xkcdsucks forum comments and sometimes people would reply to them and sometimes they ignored them. It was my thing.
DeleteRecently, ever since somebody called me on it, other people have been doing a lot of this themselves. I find this distressing. Having no creativity of my own, copying and pasting forum comments to see the reaction here was the only way I knew of participating in this fine site. Now the joy has been taken from me and I don't know what to do. Xkcd Sucks will never be the same experience for me again.
I don't know how I'll proceed with my life from now on. Maybe I'll continue visiting, maybe I won't. Maybe I'll find a girlfriend. Maybe I'll get a job. I don't know. I just wanted the people who have robbed me of one of my joys to know what they have done. To understand what they have taken. It's not your fault, I know it's hard to resist a fun game when you see one, but it's important to me that you know. Perhaps, next time you read a peculiar comment on the xkcdsucks forums, you will think of me for a moment as you copy those words and paste them here. Not with regret, not with pity, but with understanding. Maybe even respect. I think this might help.
Thankyou for listening.
Hello everybody. I'm the person that doesn't care.
DeleteRecently, i've stopped caring.
I don't know why i ever cared.
Thankyou for listening.
they have an Azrael on the forum over there. is it you?
Deleteno, i never read the forums. Plus, changing an a to an i wouldn't be very stealthy of me.
Delete2:14, why did you mirror my post like that? You are making light of something of some importance to me. It is very hurtful.
Delete7:16, why did you reply to my post like that? You are making light of something of some importance to me. It is very hurtful.
Deletehahahaha look at this guy everyone
ReplyDeletehttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xb9LvrUQia8/Sl-dxN1MgNI/AAAAAAAAABs/7OlDBfIaL6I/S220-h/marion_now.jpg
what a massive tool
So I'm bored and I'm reading about the European Convention on Human Rights which apparently protects me from the Evil Government for the next few years until it's all been privatised and we're back where we started in C19.
ReplyDeleteA question for Frenchmen.
You know how you have that law banning the wearing of ninja outfits. Now the ECtHR seems to support you on this. Would you say that:
(1) It is objectively necessary to ban people from wearing ninja outfits for "the protection of public order, health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others"; or
(2) Much of the ECHR is meaningless, since the qualifications for all qualified rights can be interpreted pretty much any way by the ECtHR justices?
As an Englishman (though anyone in the Commonwealth or Yankeeland should get where I'm coming from) I find European law very hard to understand. Here we have something called "precedent" which means that you can't just change your mind about what a law means according to the whims of the day. But you guys seem to have a "purposive" approach which as far as I can tell means "let's see what the government wants today and interpret the law in that light". Am I right? When you add to this the fact that much of Europe has done away with or never had juries, do you guys have any sense of justice at all?
We had had a fit when the Criminal Justice Act 2003 removed the right to a jury trial in complex criminal fraud cases or following allegations of jury tampering, and I'm still fairly convinced no-one's happy with it. I genuinely don't get how you can put up with the huge open crematorium oven door to institutional bias that your legal systems bring about.
Cheers ears.
no one cares faggot
Delete731 million people disagree with you, 8:08. How does that feel?
Deleteit... it feels kind of awful
DeleteAs an Englishman [...] I find European law very hard to understand.
DeleteThe definite proof that England is definitely not a part of Europe.
Maybe I'm the first person here to say it but I find the European Convention on Human Rights really boring. I have started reading hundreds of pieces of the European Convention on Human Rights of various lengths and probably finished a dozen throughout my life, not including schoolwork.
DeleteI find it hard to pick up the European Convention on Human Rights without immediately engaging a mindset of, "Here's a consumable that some guy has produced to make money and/or unload some issues. What comfortable fantasy is he creating to enable this?" And that's how my whole reading the European Convention on Human Rights experience goes. The European Convention on Human Rights makes no point well which can't be better made with reference to the Lisbon Treaty. It takes me nowhere without giving me the uncomfortable sense that someone thinks this is where I am supposed to need to be in order to see something false or escape something true. The European Convention on Human Rights idealises; it romanticises; it preaches. It falls asleep and it dreams. It is a selfish journey away from national sovereignity.
The world already has enough that is beautiful and that is abhorrent - and the International Criminal Court is far more challenging to confront. The European Convention on Human Rights has always seemed like the easy way out.
1:12 is funny because the EU accedes to the ECHR as a result of the Lisbon Treaty.
Deletehate blog + meme + law = winning combination.
1:12 = 1:39 = couldn't bear the thought that someone might not get his joke
Delete7:55, 1:39 criticises 1:12. Take a reading comprehension course; come back; re-read both posts.
DeleteI have seen the light! Hallelujah and praise be to 1:34, who rescued me from my dark ignorance and showed to me the truth of what two anonymous posters on the internet really meant! I will forever celebrate this date, March 23, as the date of my intellectual salvation by 1:34. Thank you, 1:34, from the bottom of my heart. Thank you.
DeleteRecurring "characters" in 4 of the last 6 comics? Is Randall actually going to develop some continuity and true characterization? Will xkcd turn into one of those soap-opera comics (Apt 3G, Mary Worth, Questionable Content)? Stay tuned.
ReplyDeleteA hilarious misspelling:
ReplyDeletehttp://xkcdsucks.blogpsot.com/
This is what we should really be about, not pettily picking on a piss-poor, pathetic excuse for an artist.
chris houlihan's room
ReplyDeleteWarren Robinett's Egg
DeletePersonally, I don't understand the appeal of the "chris houlihan's room" meme.
DeleteMost memes are pretty dumb, their only pupose being to make lonely people feel like they are not lonely, but they usually allow some creativity (e.g., rage comics) or are flexible enough that they can be semi-relevant to the thing that they are a response to (e.g., over 9000!).
But "chris houlihan's room", devoid of narrative or context, is no more than shouting wordlessly into the void. It could just as easily be "carnival night zone, act 2", or "parsimonious lens", or "ksufheriugi".
I know this post won't stop people from posting "chris houlihan's room", but perhaps they will re-evaluate WHY, and post something insightful as well from time to time.
It's not a meme, it's the action of one troll (well okay, I did it once, but it was done ironically).
DeleteI understand your frustration, but please don't feed the troll. You don't have to feel like the troll has won if he/she doesn't get called on it. Remember: You have a much richer existence than he/she does. You have people in your life who love you and care about you, while this troll would probably not be missed if he/she died tomorrow. His/her life doesn't matter. Yours does. Live it well.
"You have people in your life who love you and care about you"
DeleteI don't :(
Me neither :(
DeleteAnn and Chris totally need to hook up.
DeleteThey should get a room.
DeleteI would just like to take this moment to make known the fact that 10:33's reply made me chuckle. Also, I will not end this post with "that is all" because only fuckheads do that. Also, I find it amusing that Google does not find "fuckhead" to be a misspelling.
Deleteparsimonious lens
ReplyDeletecarnival night zone, act 2
ReplyDeleteksufheriugi
ReplyDeletefor the record, i am not 4:44 or 6:21
Since when did everyone posting as anonymous become okay? I don't think it's okay.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's very many people. Considering how many of them are done by me, there are probably only one or two other regular anonymous posters.
DeleteRomney 2012
DeleteRon Paul 2012 (DOWN WITH THE SPACE REPTILIANS)
DeleteI think there are five anonymous posters:
Delete1) That guy who does long thought-out time-wasting analyses;
2) That guy who writes a succinct paragraph or two with frequent references to other online comics;
3) That guy who writes short sentences of semi-gibberish;
4) That guy with low self-esteem who keeps pointing out how much time he's wasting here;
5) That guy who hurls aggressive and usually misplaced insults and probably has several 4chan tabs open.
But which one are YOU, 4:45???
DeleteIf you post anonymously, the terrorists win.
DeleteDon't forget the registered users who post anonymously when they feel like being controversial or saying something embarrassing.
DeleteShut up! That doesn't happen!
DeleteIncidentally, I find puppy rape to be quite a pleasurable pastime.
Deletechris houlihan's room
ReplyDeletePersonally, I don't understand the appeal of the "chris houlihan's room" meme.
DeleteMost memes are pretty dumb, their only pupose being to make lonely people feel like they are not lonely, but they usually allow some creativity (e.g., rage comics) or are flexible enough that they can be semi-relevant to the thing that they are a response to (e.g., over 9000!).
But "chris houlihan's room", devoid of narrative or context, is no more than shouting wordlessly into the void. It could just as easily be "carnival night zone, act 2", or "parsimonious lens", or "ksufheriugi".
I know this post won't stop people from posting "chris houlihan's room", but perhaps they will re-evaluate WHY, and post something insightful as well from time to time.
Memetic mutation: Since Link is 18 or 19 now and Zelda (his romantic interest) is several years younger than him:
ReplyDeleteChris Houlihan: Link, why don't you have a seat over there in my room.
The relationship between the characters isn't the same in every game, nor are the ages or relative ages of the characters.
DeleteAnd the new XKCD is just Randall trolling badly. Or managing to misunderstand "iff", which you know, maybe I can believe actually.
ReplyDeleteActually it's been the first one in at least 3 weeks that even gave me a slight smirk.
DeleteAnd IMO there's nothing wrong with his use of iff.
Well, 1:15:
Delete1) "A iff B." means "If A then B. If B then A." where A and B are assertions. "Honk" isn't an assertion. Of course, we're expected to give Randall some artistic (chiz chiz) licence and read this as, "You should honk if you love formal logic. Otherwise you should not honk."
2) "This implies you should NOT honk solely because..." - yes, clearly, but it also implies that as a lover of formal logic I get to honk continuously at Randall until my honker is broken. IOW, "honk if you love X" usually has the informal meaning, "If you love X then honk a couple of times now", whereas by leading us on the path to an Aspie-literal interpretation he's actually demanding that a certain class of motorists make his life miserable. Happy to oblige, Randall.
3) With all this in mind, it's especially triturating that he should use the term "formal logic" to sound smarter than if he had simply substituted the perfectly adequate "logic".
I also find it hard to believe that Randall has the cognitive ability to get into a car, let alone drive (but this is just obiter).
is it 'if and only if' or is it 'if this is so then you have no choice'? not that it makes any difference in terms of this being a piece of smug annoying look-at-me aren't-i-clever shit designed to fill the forum with smug annoying posts about 'i understood this lol look at me I know about maths and understanding this makes me special', it's just that I don't understand the thing about having to honk all the time if you honk at all. plus honk is a horrible word
Deleteweaselsoup, the problem is that "formal" logic doesn't deal with commands such as "honk!" - it deals with assertions which remain true or false as long as nothing else changes. So (*):
Delete"If Megan is a woman then she has breasts," ...(1)
means that Megan is continually breast-possessed while she is a woman.
If we were to interpret signs on the back of a car in the context of formal logic rather than everyday English, "honk if you hate Randall" would have to mean that "honk" is somehow continually true while you hate Randall. How can "honk" be continually true? Well, the fact is that it can't be - the sentence is malformed and cannot be admitted as one of formal logic. A command is not an assertion.
But how can we come closest to formal logic? In other words, how can we turn "honk" from a command into an assertion? Here are six possibilities:
You (should|will|) honk (once|continually).
I think that the difference between "should", "will" and "" is not important here, because Randall cannot force other motorist's behaviour - he can only show what he intends the truth to be in his perfect Aspie little world. This leaves the question of whether "once" or "continually" fit in best. Let us try "once". Generalising this possibility, (1) must be shorthand for:
"If Megan can be said to be a 'woman' then she must have breasts for at least some finite period of time, no matter how short."
But that is not what (1) means at all. We are forced to conclude that "honk" denotes continual honking.
It should hopefully be clear that the argument above is admitted not because Randall specifically used "iff" but because he is inviting an interpretation in the context of formal logic rather than everyday language.
Judgment for the honker.
(*) Following Randall[2011], we assume that breasts are a necessary component of womanhood.
4:25 is a sperg who is trying way too hard.
Deleteoh right, thank you.
Deletecould the "joke" be that the sticker itself does not understand formal logic then? i mean not that that is in any way funny either
4:54, fwiw, I didn't have to try very hard to produce that. But I guess I did waste 5 minutes of my time typing it out, so you can castigate me for wasting time on xkcdsucks. I'll try to be more productive in future, I swear.
Deleteweaselsoup, I guess so. But I think it's just that Randall doesn't try hard enough. He is all "I know how I can be clever and precise" but in doing so he just highlights his own ignorance. Having a vague idea of how to look after a goldfish does not mean you can one day take it out of water and pet it for the delight of an audience - I wish Randall wouldn't try to do the same with words.
I think what happened here is Randall slept through most of his discrete math and linear algebra classes and all he took away from it is "'iff' means 'if and only if'" and therefore has no more understanding of it than the typical layman.
DeleteThere actually are formal imperative (and deontic, which may or may not be the same thing) logics.
DeleteAnd present-tense verbs are ambiguous as to whether they mean occasional or continuous action; if we know that Bob swims, do we know that he always swims, non-stop; or just that he sometimes swims, now and then? How about if Bob lives? Or if he owns something? If he eats? We judge from context because the grammar does not explicitly mark it.
It works just the same with imperatives. If you tell someone to eat green vegetables, are you telling them to always eat green vegetables? Continuously, non-stop? Or, eat green vegetables whenever they eat? Or just, eat green vegetables sometimes, maybe frequently?
So, it-is-imperative-that(you honk <-> you love formal logic) could very well (and contextually, given what honking means, probably does) mean that, if you love formal logic, you should sometimes honk (for instance, now, when you read this sticker), and that if you were for any other reason to honk, you should do so only if you love formal logic.
It does not mean that everyone who loves formal logic should continuously honk so long as they love formal logic.
Pfhorrest, good attempt, but
Deleteit-is-imperative-that(you honk <-> you love formal logic)
looks like von Wright's original O(A->B) which leads to Prior's paradox (1954, so no excuse). And A->O(B) leads to Forrester's paradox. Temporal indexing fails too.
We need a special symbol, typically written something like O(A/B), to denote obligation A conditional on B - "A iff B", being a pronunciation of (A->B & B<-A), seems entirely inappropriate. And dyadic deontic logics have their own paradoxes. Jørgensen's dilemma hasn't been solved.
As for the ambiguity about the length of time for which I must honk, yes, quite. I maintain per 4:25 that continual honking at Randall is called for.
The only reasonable counterargument is summarised by cptnoremac's post: "iff" is shorthand for informal "if and only if". But then what the hell has the strip got to do with formal logic?
lol, i must check my posts before sending. read "(A->B & B->A)".
Deleteare you guys all really smart and just remember all this stuff or do you do lots of googling between each reply?
Deletecaptcha: ightes iffir
ightes <-> ir?
1032 is probably the worst XKCD ever. Until Monday.
ReplyDeletetop ten worst xkcds:
Delete- the week's worth of ones about the Firefly cast and skateboard racing
- the one where he says that the news is trying to fool us by pretending billions are the same as millions, and that this is the same as him fucking 'your daughter'
- the vulva on the restaurant table one
- the one where the doctor's exam is the same as flashing your tits at mardi gras
- the one where he describes how he stays friends with someone in the creepy hope that she will eventually cave in and shag him
- 'fields arranged by purity' & the 'pretending to be expert in people's fields to show how stupid they are' one go together
- the secretary blogger thing whatever the hell that was
- 'science mnemonics'
- the leet ones
- every single one with beret man
top ten worst recurring themes
- look at me I have a SEX LIFE
- knowing maths and science makes me better than you
- wikipedia loves me
- i know about grammar and history and politics but 'liberal arts' are for idiots
- velociraptors ('look at my childlike sense of wonder!')
- 'memes' esp when taken from pop songs
- 'randomness' is funny
- i am a 'nerd' and that makes me special
- charts of google results
- my hobby is behaving like a dick towards other people
Don't forget:
Delete- 'Queueing' = 'FUCK ME NOW!'
- Magic lamp goes 'splort'!
- An unmatched left perenthesis (seriously, wtf?
- Girllookatthatbody = instant wackiness!
- 'Did Lincoln own a globe?'
I think we're gonna need more than a top ten list.
lmao what a terrible looking car
ReplyDeletecarnival night zone, act 2
ReplyDeletePersonally, I don't understand the appeal of the "carnival night zone, act 2" meme.
DeleteMost memes are pretty dumb, their only pupose being to make lonely people feel like they are not lonely, but they usually allow some creativity (e.g., rage comics) or are flexible enough that they can be semi-relevant to the thing that they are a response to (e.g., over 9000!).
But "carnival night zone, act 2", devoid of narrative or context, is no more than shouting wordlessly into the void. It could just as easily be "chris houlihan's room", or "parsimonious lens", or "ksufheriugi".
I know this post won't stop people from posting "carnival night zone, act 2", but perhaps they will re-evaluate WHY, and post something insightful as well from time to time.
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