tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post640593541606359956..comments2024-03-17T05:03:46.056-07:00Comments on xkcd sucks: 559 Guest Post: No Joke IntendedCarlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01074589998141327538noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-73670854167284995262009-04-05T20:20:00.000-07:002009-04-05T20:20:00.000-07:00Anon who the hell are you talking to? This is pre...Anon who the hell are you talking to? This is pretty clearly titled "Guest Post"...Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11192581573588205095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-3492378850721228442009-04-05T12:30:00.000-07:002009-04-05T12:30:00.000-07:00Anon: you are an idiot.Anon: you are an idiot.rshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15828938843801425383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-48166495785056549542009-04-05T02:59:00.000-07:002009-04-05T02:59:00.000-07:00oh, just shut up. you're not funny anymore, carloh, just shut up. you're not funny anymore, carlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-51295049198344295692009-03-28T02:40:00.000-07:002009-03-28T02:40:00.000-07:00Hours-later cuddlefish: No, it's a Gricean maxim t...Hours-later cuddlefish: No, it's a Gricean maxim thing. 'No pun intended' is used to draw attention to a pun, so people will immediately try to find it (and, obviously, fail). Then, depending on how much they believe you, they'll either be deeply confused for a moment, assume you're an idiot, or assume you're messing with them.<BR/><BR/>But that sort of confusion is not likely to last for more than a minute or so, and that is assuming you are masterful at playing them for all it's worth. It goes like this.<BR/><BR/>FREDERICK: "Oh yeah, they broke up about a month ago--no pun intended."<BR/>JOSEPHINE: "Huh? What's the pun?" <I>JOSEPHINE tries to work it out.</I> "I don't get it."<BR/>FREDERICK: "Come on, do I have to spell it out for you? Month?"<BR/>JOSEPHINE: "...yes, yes you do."<BR/>FREDERICK: "Well, too bad."<BR/>JOSEPHINE: "Whatever." <I>JOSEPHINE</I> figures that FREDERICK is either an idiot or a douchebag, and leaves it be.<BR/><BR/>BONUS ALTERNATE ENDING!!!!!<BR/><BR/>FREDERICK: "Well, too bad."<BR/>JOSEPHINE: "No, tell me!"<BR/>FREDERICK: "Nope."<BR/><I>JOSEPHINE drops it, assuming it is a pun based on some obscure fact she doesn't know and that FREDERICK is too much of an arrogant bastard to admit that his joke was too obscure or idiotic to be effective.</I>rshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15828938843801425383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-24716957022749701942009-03-27T20:47:00.000-07:002009-03-27T20:47:00.000-07:00To be honest?I'd think the realization would be it...To be honest?<BR/>I'd think the realization would be it suddenly hitting your brain - I will, often, hear something weird and it won't immediately make me go 'Wha?' until hours later.<BR/>That was my take on it, anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-25550524111744215822009-03-27T09:49:00.000-07:002009-03-27T09:49:00.000-07:00SPOILERS AHOY!In "The Murder of Roger Ackroyd"YO I...SPOILERS AHOY!<BR/><BR/>In "The Murder of Roger Ackroyd"<BR/><BR/>YO I SAID SPOILERS AHOY PEOPLE<BR/><BR/>it's the nSaPrOrIaLtEoRr what done it. Not Agatha Christie.<BR/><BR/>Not saying Randall is as good at writing as Agatha Christie (not that I've read any of her work - I got halfway through 'The ABC Murders' before getting distracted). But hey. Make of that what you will, or won't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-50929325539339718362009-03-27T09:24:00.000-07:002009-03-27T09:24:00.000-07:00Lol. He clearly is holding his face, not facepalmi...Lol. He clearly <I>is</I> holding his face, not facepalming. Makes you look pretty stupid.<BR/><BR/>And your insane inferences that he actually does these things in real life- has no bearing on how funny the comic is... so FTF for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-70398723953025532412009-03-26T19:32:00.000-07:002009-03-26T19:32:00.000-07:00Oh man, there was a fucktard and I wasn't paying a...Oh man, there was a fucktard and I wasn't paying attention to the comment threads for once! WHODUNIT I HOPE YOU ARE NOT GONE YET I WANT TO MAKE HUGS WITH YOU<BR/><BR/>Okay so, let me tell you a fun fact! Yesterday I had someone tell me, perhaps hoping to earn my approval (despite being an XKCD SUCKS blogger but okay!) that he had 'totally gotten someone with the No Pun Intended thing from XKCD.' And it confused the person right enough! But not for terribly long.<BR/><BR/>The point is not that I have a friend who thinks strange things about what I will approve of, however. It is that real people can do this easily! They can do it easily without any real effort, without being clever, and without alienating their friends.<BR/><BR/>Let me tell you another story! I write a fiction blog. While the characters presented are fictional, it is still reasonable to expect that when I write about something that one of the characters might think is cool, that I, also, endorse that thing. Indeed, the author is always present in his works. If there is a wise character, it is safe to assume the author thinks that character wise. If a character is meant to be clever, it is safe to assume the author thinks him clever. In something so bereft of characterization as XKCD, it is fairly reasonable to assume that, unless someone is <I>clearly</I> a different character, Randy is talking about himself when he uses the first person. He does not just write a comic, he writes about things he thinks are funny or cool or clever.<BR/><BR/>And violating Gricean maxims is the sort of harmless fun a lot of people do, especially me. It's hardly a stretch to assume Randy does this himself, and imagined a scenario where this thing is <I>so clever</I> people think about it for three hours.<BR/><BR/>It's not that clever, nor original. It's a very, very easy mental hack, because of Gricean maxims: be truthful, be relevant, be clear, don't say any more or less than is necessary. This joke hinges on violating the maxim of quality. (Incidentally, Grice himself found the violating of these maxims interesting, so it's not new in any sense of the word.)<BR/><BR/>It doesn't take too long for someone to figure out that you are violating a maxim, either intentionally or unintentionally. The problem here is not that Randy thinks that he, personally, is likely to baffle people for three hours, but that he thinks he can come up with a 'clever hack' that would baffle someone for three hours.<BR/><BR/>Also Whodunit! You are an idiot and suck at everything, ever.rshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15828938843801425383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-62742190783711052562009-03-26T17:33:00.000-07:002009-03-26T17:33:00.000-07:00fluffy! Your bizzy buzzy site is creative! And c...fluffy! Your bizzy buzzy site is creative! And cute! And not just a random thing like "haw haw I do know about sex and look it is a nerdy site!"<BR/><BR/>Whodunit, you are so weirdly angry that I don't really know how to regard you.<BR/><BR/>Okay the thing about this most recent one is that yeah, probably Randall has not done this in real life. I mean you're saying he's only ever done it if he explicitly says so, right? Well it does kinda say "MY HOBBY" but in the case that he is just imagining this, the problem is that he still thinks that, when he imagines this scenario, that whoever he does this to will indeed think about what he's saying for three hours! Do you see what I'm getting at? Like the cat captions, okay obviously that is not real. He is also not mailing cats. But he is imagining what would happen if he did! And in this case he is also expecting his cleverness to keep someone confused for three hours rather than cause a simple "huh well you are an idiot because there was no pun."<BR/><BR/>You are right, though, I do assume that Randal rapes puppies from Mars. Doesn't everyone that criticizes him? If not, my world has come crumbling down!Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11192581573588205095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-53496358568669661022009-03-26T17:25:00.000-07:002009-03-26T17:25:00.000-07:00@Poore: Comics that regard things Randall does in ...@Poore: Comics that regard things Randall does in real life are rather straightforward about such things: like the recent one where it states flat out that "I still have this dream years after I'm done with school." If not there, then it's stated in the alt text, like the comic you linked. <BR/><BR/>The difference is, where any reasonable person would say "no, I doubt Randall would actually sit around and fuck with baby ducks, or that he really wishes there was a girl hiding in his etch-a-sketch," you knuckle-dragging fucktards go for this as your first conclusion, because you operate from the base assumption that Randall is a puppy raping pedophile from the planet Mars. Thus, anything, <I>anything</I> in the comic that could possibly be used to slander him is interpreted in that light, and then you tell other people to <I>disprove</I> your entirely slanderous bullshit claims, offering as proof only the fact that sometimes Randall tells Real Life stories in his comic, so any outlandish shit you wish to attribute directly to him, you can. <BR/><BR/>You are so full of shit it's unreal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-2051797702307013462009-03-26T14:10:00.000-07:002009-03-26T14:10:00.000-07:00But it turns out that when you shoot fish in a bar...But it turns out that when you shoot fish in a barrel, it's not the bullets that kill them, it's the shockwave from the bullets impacting on the surface. Clearly that expression is flawed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-16094891479117327732009-03-26T14:08:00.000-07:002009-03-26T14:08:00.000-07:00@Ian http://ixdyland.net/pics/alternative_alternat...@Ian <BR/><BR/>http://ixdyland.net/pics/alternative_alternative_energy_revolution.jpg<BR/><BR/>That's the template from the "xkcd could be better" blog without that line, or the redundant one about Tripods/War of the Worlds. The idea is that you add your own text, but I think it works perfectly left as it is. <BR/><BR/>@lots of others - I guess stirring up arguments here is kinda shooting fish in a barrel...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-34404615123087417072009-03-26T12:44:00.000-07:002009-03-26T12:44:00.000-07:00That might be the most forced domain pun that I've...That might be the most forced domain pun that I've ever seen. Pretty much par for the course for Randall.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08855719986217191125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-44549789446484754092009-03-26T11:44:00.000-07:002009-03-26T11:44:00.000-07:00It's not even a very clever pun domain. There are...It's not even a very clever pun domain. There are lots of words and phrases which end in "us." <BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, years after I registered it, I still get compliments on my silly domain name (beesbuzz.biz) that I now use for most of my creative output.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-18895373764857756212009-03-26T11:42:00.000-07:002009-03-26T11:42:00.000-07:00Yeah he also likes to shove the fact that he knows...Yeah he also likes to shove the fact that he <I>knows about sex</I> in our faces. Our down our throats. Problem was, the person who discovered it was all like OMG RANDALL EXCELLENT EXCELLENT MOVE ONCE AGAINAmandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11192581573588205095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-27053284967640420562009-03-26T11:38:00.000-07:002009-03-26T11:38:00.000-07:00Wow he owns more than one domain name and is able ...Wow he owns more than one domain name and is able to point them all at a single site<BR/><BR/>Truly he is far too brilliant for the likes of usAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-6968139008215431202009-03-26T11:36:00.000-07:002009-03-26T11:36:00.000-07:00Out of curiosity, how many of you knew about this?...Out of curiosity, how many of you knew about <A HREF="http://cu.nniling.us/" REL="nofollow">this</A>?Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11192581573588205095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-49327618951897685952009-03-26T09:57:00.000-07:002009-03-26T09:57:00.000-07:00I don't think Randall can take that much credit fo...I don't think Randall can take that much credit for getting us to argue, considering some of the ridiculous debates which have happened here on their own volition (like the occasional "what is a comic?" thing that seems to keep on coming up).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-71561568211294124322009-03-26T09:00:00.000-07:002009-03-26T09:00:00.000-07:00*titters at the line "He's managed to get us argui...*titters at the line "He's managed to get us arguing and looking like idiots over something totally trivial."*<BR/><BR/>No, no, I'm gonna be a man and not make anything of it... erm... the current comic kinda sucks, but no-one's reported that it killed their children yet. Which is good.<BR/><BR/>Also, I thought Beret Guy was just an idiot. He eats bolts, chrissakes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-38032872082168265572009-03-26T08:48:00.000-07:002009-03-26T08:48:00.000-07:00Get out of my head Randall! lol, god the past coup...Get out of my head Randall! <BR/><BR/>lol, god the past couple of comics have sucked (I would have liked the windmill comic sans the Gore line)Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16394576252371072566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-73177352282788242372009-03-26T05:55:00.000-07:002009-03-26T05:55:00.000-07:00On the Alt-text - Kudos to Randall for the "dammit...On the Alt-text - Kudos to Randall for the "dammit" Troll. He's managed to get us arguing and looking like idiots over something totally trivial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-10108951141227481692009-03-25T20:52:00.000-07:002009-03-25T20:52:00.000-07:00"But, can we all agree that "dammit" is LOGICALLY ..."But, can we all agree that "dammit" is LOGICALLY wrong, whether it's widely accepted or not?<BR/>It came to be spelled phonetically, which i one of those things that bugs me."<BR/><BR/>Wait... what? It's logically wrong to spell things the way they sound. I thought that we the point of an alphabet. Maybe, I just have a different outlook since I also know a language that is very regular in its connection between grapheme and phoneme (not perfectly though). I'm also a very auditory person and love the sound of my native language (and second too even if I'm not as good at pronouncing those sounds), so that could effect it.Michael W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04048680632449910917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-498848649304724802009-03-25T20:00:00.000-07:002009-03-25T20:00:00.000-07:00@Whodunit:Also, if you think that authors never us...@Whodunit:<BR/><BR/>Also, if you think that authors never use their characters to vicariously voice their own thoughts, ideas, opinions, etc., then I think you're the one who's *ahem* "fucking delusional".<BR/><BR/>AND if you believe that Randall Munroe's Illustrated Blog never makes use of this technique, you're DOUBLY fucking deluded, as he often does the <A HREF="http://xkcd.com/150/" REL="nofollow">things the characters in his comic do</A> in <A HREF="http://blag.xkcd.com/2007/11/19/growing-up/" REL="nofollow">real life</A>.<BR/><BR/>That's what we call concrete evidence. And you're what we call an idiot.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for playing, though.<BR/><BR/></catharsis><BR/><BR/>(P.S. - Yes, I know I should technically have an opening tag, so don't jump all over me about it. Using unopened tags for rhetorical effect at the end of a post is something that people on forums occasionally do, and I was reproducing that mode of communicative interaction here on the "Comments" page. DEAL WITH IT.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-73249357232617926902009-03-25T19:09:00.000-07:002009-03-25T19:09:00.000-07:00Just to be picky, I believe Beret Guy is supposed ...Just to be picky, I believe Beret Guy is supposed to be grasping his chin in thought, not facepalming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6714810984552499396.post-60544980195247956732009-03-25T12:54:00.000-07:002009-03-25T12:54:00.000-07:00Whodunit: The problem with your analogy is that H...Whodunit: The problem with your analogy is that Hobbes was a fully developed character, with a distinct, mostly solid personality. This comic, however, only has "me" (my hobby). Randall has not established a narrator with any kind of distinguishing characteristics, so it's not unreasonable to think that "me" means the author.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08855719986217191125noreply@blogger.com